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Christian charity ordered to disassociate itself from a hate site run by UK homophobe Stephen Green

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Green, above, has for years been attacking LGBT+ communities via his hate-filled Christian Voice blog and elsewhere, so how, one has to ask, did The National Council for Christian Standards in Society, a registered charity, choose to link itself with the Green’s site?

The answer, we discovered today, is because Green, a vicious lunatic who has called for the death penalty for homosexuality, is one of three trustees of the charity, which has found itself in hot water with the Charity Commission.

Rationalwiki says this of Green:

On the home front, Green maintains his Christian sense of moral justice — equitably beating both his wife and his children bloody (nearly breaking his son’s arm), finally saving the sweet, sweet rape for just his wife. Just like Jesus would have done.

According the Commission’s report the Council, established in 1986 to “promote religion and religious education”, had been warned to separate its charitable work from the political lobbying activities of Christian Voice, a connected, non-charitable body.  

The trustees, it found, did not take sufficient steps to act on this advice, which has led the regulator to now issue an Official Warning. 

The Official Warning sets out actions the charity’s trustees need to take to rectify the misconduct and/or mismanagement, including acting on previous advice. The regulator has also identified that the charity needs to amend its ambiguous purposes to ensure they are exclusively charitable. Failing to take remedial steps to address issues identified by the regulator can result in the charity facing further regulatory action. 

Tracy Howarth, Assistant Director for Casework at the Charity Commission, said:

It’s clear this charity has not taken our previous advice on board and so we have issued an Official Warning with the expectation that changes are made at pace. When carrying out any activity, trustees must consider how it helps meet their charitable purposes and if they are acting within charity law. We, and the public, expect this of charities as a minimum.  This intervention should serve as a reminder for all trustees to take any advice and guidance they receive from us seriously. As regulator, we issue guidance to help trustees ensure their charity is run well to deliver for beneficiaries. If we step in, we’re giving advice to help avoid further regulatory action.

Hat tip: Stephen Harvie

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26 responses to “Christian charity ordered to disassociate itself from a hate site run by UK homophobe Stephen Green”

  1. malcolmjdodd Avatar
    malcolmjdodd

    How is it that the Charity Commission considered deranged Stephen Green a fit person to be a charity trustee?

    Green is described by his ex-wife Caroline as “controlling, spiteful and self-righteous, delusional and completely uncontrollable” and that living with him “was almost like living in a cult” – almost is surely the understatement of the century when referring to Green who represents many evil cults in one demented body.

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  2. deniswatkins1 Avatar
    deniswatkins1

    I want to take this opportunity to comment on assisted dying. It is a personal and distressing subject as both myself and my wife had parents who died in great pain So when I hear someone on a BBC phone in programme is recommending the comments in an article by a bishop I despair. A bishop, by his job and his faith, cannot be objective. To a very large extent his mind has been made up by believing in a faith that is irrational.

    The bible, the supposed truth of God, was drafted and redrafted over the years. And to this readership I don’t have to quote the many impossibilities stated as truths. Yet a subject as personal as assisted dying will influence so many if they hear the words of clergy. Those arguing against assisted dying, with very adequate safeguards, always speak as if death was happening to someone else. The fact is that no one escapes. Christians seem to have dropped the possibility of hell. And with some difficulty, I have no doubt, believe they are going to heaven.

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    1. malcolmjdodd Avatar
      malcolmjdodd

      The CofE ‘officially’ dropped the concept of hell about 40 years ago as it had lost its impact after 1,600 years of terrifying the suckers; most of their clergy have also dropped the concept of heaven, god, resurrection and virgin birth.

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      1. deniswatkins1 Avatar
        deniswatkins1

        Malcolm. I read that Britain now has more non believers in God than Christians. I heard Christians on a radio programme expressing surprise, indeed puzzlement that people could “not believe in God.”

        I suggest the overwhelming reason for non belief in God is that there has never been any unequivocal evidence for God’s existence.

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        1. stephenharvie Avatar
          stephenharvie

          If there was any proof of a god then as empiricists we would have to acknowledge that god. The mere fact that for thousands of years there have been thousands of gods proposed by the faithful and yet not one scintilla of proof of existence has been provided.

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            deniswatkins1

            I keep hearing Christian clergy thanking God for giving us our wonderful country. Really? The Earth is over heating and over populated and we have wrecked the land, poisoned the rivers, rendered many animals extinct and made much of the air dangerous to breathe.

            So many insects, which are essential for the existence of the plants we need for food have been wiped out. Doesn’t their omnipotent, all loving God care.? What do Christians see and understand that I am missing? How do they manage to continue with these beliefs which are potentially suicidal to homo sapiens. (The name itself is nonsense and an example of our self regard.)

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  3. deniswatkins1 Avatar
    deniswatkins1

    “How is it that the Charity Commission considered deranged Stephen Green a fit person to be a charity trustee?”

    Unfortunately, there are so many people who still attract confidence despite evidence that they are vile and will bring distress on the very people who support them.. How can around half of USA voters still support Donald Trump whose rambling, often incoherent, racist, lying and anti female comments attract enthusiastic support?

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    1. malcolmjdodd Avatar
      malcolmjdodd

      Denis, it is a mystery wrapped in an enigma!

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    2. barriejohn Avatar
      barriejohn

      Because to a great many, the only thing that matters is their own prosperity!

      https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/czeg87x125ro

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  4. stephenharvie Avatar
    stephenharvie

    It is always good to remember the Green is known by his nickname Birdshit Green which stems from the day a gull shat on him and Green decided that this was his god sending him a message. If he believes in crapomancery it is fortunate for old Birdshit that elephants are unable to fly and strange that his magic book forbids it.

    Deuteronomy 18:10-11 – Let no one be found among you who consigns a son or daughter to the fire, or who is an augur, a soothsayer, a diviner, a sorcerer, one who casts spells, or one who consults ghosts or familiar spirits, or one who inquires of the dead.

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    1. malcolmjdodd Avatar
      malcolmjdodd

      Deuteronomy 18:10-11 – I didn’t realise that the Burble contained such a concise definition of their god.

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    2. deniswatkins1 Avatar
      deniswatkins1

      Stephen: Somehow these words of biblical truth, and so much else of a similar nature, don’t get mentioned by the clergy who have so much to say on the BBC. I notice that their spiels on the BBC give fewer and fewer words to mentioning God. Often a reference to God is confined to the the last couple of sentences.

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      1. stephenharvie Avatar
        stephenharvie

        Strange, isn’t it?

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    3. barriejohn Avatar
      barriejohn

      Unfortunately, I am constantly reminded of this obnoxious creature by both the large numbers of gulls in my locality, and the frequent news reports concerning the continuing success of the Tesco organisation (£2.3 billion profit last year). Google “Stephen Green Christian Tesco” and you’ll see what I mean. Talk about prayers falling on deaf ears!

      https://www.theguardian.com/business/2012/jan/13/tesco-slump-divine-intervention-christian-group

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  5. deniswatkins1 Avatar
    deniswatkins1

    A belief in God confines us to a kind of parochial thinking more appropriate to the Middle Ages. Astronomers now say they have good reasons for thinking that there are at least 100 billion and possibly 500 billion stars in our galaxy the Milky Way. Light takes 100,000 years to cross from one side of the Milky Way to the other. What part does Christianity’s petulant, revengeful, parochial God have in these inconceivable distances and numbers.

    On a related point, there remains a vast mystery about how all this came about and even if there is more than one cosmos. It may well be that the explanation and the cause cannot be described in the thinking confined to our brains.

    I would much prefer the BBC encouraged debates on how it all came about. The God explanation doesn’t quite do it.

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    1. malcolmjdodd Avatar
      malcolmjdodd

      BBC Radio 4/4extra subject us to the god-botherers at least four times each day, prayer-for-the-day, thought-for-the-day, church service and the national anthem; it would be useful to know the audience figures for these mediaeval impositions.

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      1. Broga Avatar
        Broga

        Malcolm,

        I wonder what the God botherers will make of the disaster in Florida. Just a glimpse of the personal suffering of humans and animals is hard even from far away. In the recent past preachers in the USA have been quick to identify even minor mishaps as God’s punishment on those they identify. What about the tragic two million in Florida.

        The grisly Trump has identified himself as chosen by God who saved him from assassination. Trump has repeatedly insisted that global warming is a hoax. Where is Trump’s God now? Are the innocents in Florida being punished? Or the Christian de Santis, the governor, who supports the very industries who are causing these disasters.

        de Santis is now reduced to urging people tp pray. Wouldn’t the God he prays to, being omniscient, already know that these prayers would be made. If political catastrophes like Trump and de Santas got treated as they deserve instead of being given power then positive policies would have more chance of being developed.

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  6. deniswatkins1 Avatar
    deniswatkins1

    Malcolm:

    And every time the comments are based on superstition. The rivers across the world are drying up faster than any time in the last 30 years. Doesn’t God care about his creation. Perhaps we are just too tiny. I remember, a scientist describing the Earth as ‘a mote of dust’ in relation to the galaxy. I have forgotten the name of the scientist but his memorable phrase stuck.

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    1. malcolmjdodd Avatar
      malcolmjdodd

      Could be a Carl Sagan aphorism.

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  7. barriejohn Avatar
    barriejohn

    It has been common knowledge for years that the Charity Commission is not fit for purpose, yet it bumbles on. A woman has been imprisoned today for embezzling nearly £86,000 from her “best friend’s” cancer charity, and another £9,505 from the Anthony Nolan Trust. How is this even possible? If you want to become rich, start a religion – or a charity!

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/crm28xxdvd1o

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  8. Broga Avatar
    Broga

    Barrie. It isn’t just the Charity Commission that is lacking. There seems to be a fading of values and principle that were once taken for granted. Politicians being an example of those who grab freebies to an extent that shocks. Someone robbing a cancer victim being no longer unusual. And being a preacher now often seems used as a cover for sexually abusing children.

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  9. malcolmjdodd Avatar
    malcolmjdodd

    Denis, the Nobel awards for the sciences would be unnecessary if the creator of the universe would speak to scientists as well as ayatollahs and other riff-raff.

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    Broga.

    Trump says the hurricanes in Florida are coursed by the Dems. A reporter should ask him if he wins the election, will he stop all further hurricanes reaching Florida?

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    1. malcolmjdodd Avatar
      malcolmjdodd

      Haha, the chump will ban them within 24 hours.

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      1. Broga Avatar
        Broga

        If the criminal thief and rapist is elected then his supporters deserve all they get and that will be disastrous. Tragically, the innocent who oppose the selfish clown will also suffer.

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  11. Broga Avatar
    Broga

    Malcolm. No problem for Trump. He will blame any hurricanes on someone who disagrees with him. It really beggars belief that Trump’s criminality, rapes, treachery, lies and destruction of the environment still leaves him with about half the voters supporting him. I suppose there must be an explanation for half the voters prepared to wreck their country and do so much harm to so many people.

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